OUCH !!

jddens · Post by **jddens** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:53 pm

Had a great trip on "Time Warp" yesterday. Midweek, very few boats on the water and great weather, boat running perfectly!.......... Took a nice cruise to lunch then stopped at the fuel dock on the way back. My boat is much smaller than many here and only has 100 gallon gas capacity. I had intentionally run her down to about 1/4 tanks to burn the old fuel prior to filling......paid $4.72 for 75 gallons......total just over $350 !! Prices will be well above $5.00 by Labor Day. I can only imagine the pain many of you must feel when filling up. Now that she's full I will go back to hauling 5 gallon cans and keep her topped off........fuel prices here are rocketing as a "supposed" result of the Chevron refinery fire. Funny how prices can go up overnight and then take months to trickle back down and never get back to where they were. And they say demand for gas is down..........fuel costs will definitely have an impact on my boating this year...........John

aaronbocknek · Post by **aaronbocknek** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:58 pm

and let's not forget the price of corn has risen too w/ the drought. like i've said before, food crops should never be used for anything else but food. not fuel additives. i heard a petroleum guy yesterday on npr say that the scarcity of corn can add as much as 22.5% to the cost of fuel. yeah, that was a GREAT IDEA!!

larryeddington · Post by **larryeddington** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:06 pm

Todays paper the farmers that use corn for feed are begging the govt to cut back on amount of alcohol produced, I would be very surprised to see that happen.

rossjo · Post by **rossjo** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:41 pm

Shell doesn't even use Corn - they use ethanol from Brazilian cane sugar.

Great plan - the gas companies keep spanking us.

Oh well - filed up the 18 with good old E-Free yesterday. Not sure what it cost - I don't look any more.

larryeddington · Post by **larryeddington** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:43 pm

Figures as they are Royal Dutch Shell, not a US company

jefflaw35 · Post by **jefflaw35** » Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:24 am

+1 to Larry, did I do the correct spelling of (to)????

gopher · Post by **gopher** » Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:00 am

Hey.. up here in Canada, premium is running about $6/gal at the
corner gas station...
... and we're an oil exporting nation.. well, at least till China buys up all the oil sands and ships it themselves back home..

Vitaliy · Post by **Vitaliy** » Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:56 am

I just personally think that its ridiculous that the price difference between "marine" and "conventional" gasoline is soo much in difference... there really isnt much difference except maybe fuel stabilizer which no way in hell costs that much more.

Big D · Post by **Big D** » Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:32 pm

I think the premium at a marina for the same blend is the result of insurance.

EM63 · Post by **EM63** » Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:49 pm

Same her in Germany: 4.64 USD per gallon.

26.5 gallons (100 Liter) 214.0 USD (174 EUR).
Filled up the tanks for 737,34 USD (600 EUR)

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Greetings - Heiner

antlr-king · Post by **antlr-king** » Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:01 pm

here in fl i just paid 4.40 a gal for 89 enthanol free marina fuel. 105 gal tank. this sucks...i used to go out way more often than i do now.

Vitaliy · Post by **Vitaliy** » Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:57 pm

insurance or not i still think that its ridiculous that marine fuel is $1.00+ per gallon premium on regular gas even thou most people buying marine grade buy in bulk..... compared to automotive... but its one of those things i cant do a dam thing about so ill just biach about it lol...

EM63 · Post by **EM63** » Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:52 am

Some statement about found in Financial Times:

http://tinyurl.com/c9dvwqe
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Greetings Heiner

jimbo36 · Post by **jimbo36** » Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:18 am

Vitaliy wrote:I just personally think that its ridiculous that the price difference between "marine" and "conventional" gasoline is soo much in difference... there really isnt much difference except maybe fuel stabilizer which no way in hell costs that much more.

As a Marina operator, I may be able to shed some light on why there is a major differance. First of all, fuel handling on the water is strictly regulated with many requirements not associated with conventional refuelling facilities, mainly due to invironmental issues. In Canada the TSSA set out guidlines for safety regulations and equipment minimum requirements and provide stiff fines for those not following these regulations. This is in addition to other Government Agencys involvement. Complying is expensive. Here are a couple of reasons that most people may not think of.

1. ONLY trained personal are allowed to fuel boats. (in Canada) We have 10 fully trained staff working our fuel docks. Unlike pumping your own fuel at the gas station, we have wages to pay trained and experienced staff.
2. Marinas MUST have and maintain emergancy spill equipment which is expensive and is big part of staff training.
3. Annual inspections Must be carried out on tanks, pumps and equipment, costing several thousands of dollars, every season.
4. Fuel delivery to a Marina, usually off the main roads, on islands, etc. increases costs.
We are required to replace our tanks, due to age, for next season. Our cost to install new above ground tanks is 150K.

Fuel stabilizer??

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:21 am

#4 is a lot of it for sure , added to the fact most marinas can not take a full tanker load .