1987 TROJAN 10M FLYBRIDGE - Can I maneuver on one engine??

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Would you take your twin engine boat 60 miles in calm water canals on one engine?

Uh no..
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Depends how desperate I was..
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Sure, but I'd make sure my insurance was up to date first..
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Yea, with confidence at idle speed.
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Marooned? Nah...

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I will probably just take the intercoastal and deal with the few low bridges, in which case, if the STB engine gives out, We drop anchor, bow and stern, and radio for a tow. Won't be particularly fun, but not very dramactic either.

Sounds promising though that more than one of you have run on the STB prop and had a decent ability to navigate.
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Location location location

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She is just south of PGA on the intercoastal. it's a 55 mile run due south to the turn just after Bahia Mar, then 7 miles to my dock in the Riverland Area right across from the boat yards on Marina Mile.

Very serious about wanting an extra hand or two.

As for the name, my tax return was surprisingly better than expected, and the excess exactly paid for the boat, hence the name :-) ( well at least paid for the PURCHASE of the boat I should say )

Rum can be added to the bar no problem. Ice, mixers, whatever you need as long as you're willing to push off a bridge if needed and superman onto a dock with a line in tow on request.
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M/Y Tax Return wrote:
Sounds promising though that more than one of you have run on the STB prop and had a decent ability to navigate.
Practice so you get good at getting in and out of the dock like this and you'll really be doing something. Then there aren't likely to be too many unanswered handling questions left.
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M/Y Tax Return wrote:She is just south of PGA on the intercoastal. it's a 55 mile run due south to the turn just after Bahia Mar, then 7 miles to my dock in the Riverland Area right across from the boat yards on Marina Mile.

Very serious about wanting an extra hand or two.

As for the name, my tax return was surprisingly better than expected, and the excess exactly paid for the boat, hence the name :-) ( well at least paid for the PURCHASE of the boat I should say )

Rum can be added to the bar no problem. Ice, mixers, whatever you need as long as you're willing to push off a bridge if needed and superman onto a dock with a line in tow on request.
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I don't see any problem with making the trip , just know you limits of maneuverability . leave the prop on , but use the diver to clean the running gear if needed . get seatow or towboat us . but as far the danger of breaking down because of one engine , its no different the a single engine boat . just don't run it hard .

if you not experienced on operating a boat like that , make sure you have some one with you that has . But it sounds like you have a good offer for help here I would use it .

I my self have a 170 mile run on one ( old owens ) had no issues
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The area of the ICW you are talking about is pretty wide open and I don't think you will have a problem. The New river is a different story and I think you need to plan on going in at slack tide or during a outgoing tide. Going in with the current behind you will be a little more difficult on one engine if you have to stop or back for yacht traffic or bridges (2 train bridges).

Listen to VHF 9 for traffic reports from the bigger yachts as they will update there position in the river when they are at Tarpon bend, the girls school, the tunnel, the wiggles, and the CSX bridge.

I don't think you will have a problem but if you do Cape Ann towing operates on the river, I know everyone is saying get a membership but I don't think it is in effect until 30 days after purchase.

I routinely run this river on 100 to 130 ft yachts (about 50 times a year) and if I can help let me know. Matter of fact I keep my boat (Trojan) at Marina Mile yachting Center and if you want I could escort you in my little boat. I am not sure what I could do to help but if all hell broke loose I could tow you a short distance. 16ft Nautica inflatable with a 90hp Yamaha.

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With a bit of planing, you should be able to make this trip on one engine in that boat without issue.
I use to run my 11 meter express on one engine all the time when I fished. I could run either engine and still be able to keep the boat straight without full rudder as I could check it on the autopilot rudder indicator.
I still had enough rudder left to make a turn in the direction of the side of the engine that I was using.... but it was a wider turn and as previously stated, do not be afraid to increase speed to help.I know you have a much higher profile so pick your day carefully.
If you can, tow an inflatable tender with you if you are nervous. You can have someone jump in and run next to you and if you need a nudge trying to make a turn in close quarters you could do it no problem. Then when back in the clear tie it back off to the big boat until you come back into a congested area.
I have done this numerous times in our basin as I am on the end and my inflatable is always available. If someone is limping back in or being towed I just push them back into their dockspace or help them make the turn so they can get in under their own power.
Looks like you have a few offers for help so I am sure you will be in good hands. I wish I was closer to help.
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I belive towing memberships start after 24 hours , if you break down , "dock to dock " towing I belive starts after a longer wait . best to call and ask
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prowlersfish wrote:I belive towing memberships start after 24 hours , if you break down , "dock to dock " towing I belive starts after a longer wait . best to call and ask
I'm with Seatow (really nice guys down here) and they do not honor pre-existing conditions during the first 30 days.

From Seatow-

Pre-existing Problems: A membership applicant guarantees that the covered vessel(s) will be reasonably maintained and in reasonable working order when he/she joins. Therefore, pre-existing problems are not covered under one's membership. This applies to new memberships and any changes in primary vessel information.

I believe Towboat US has the same policy. Leaving the dock with one engine? I am not sure if the boat falls in the "reasonable working order" category or not so Paul is right, it's best to call and ask. You don't want to be in a gray area with a marine towing company.
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Thanks Everyone

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I just wantt to say that I have found this very helpful, and to use the technical term "badass" to actually have people contribute to my issue. I have gotten my towing membership, clarified with them that I would be trying to pilot my boat on 1 1/2 engines, with a fear that the Port side would give out, and they have stated that I am fine to call them in for a tow if I lose that 1/2 engine.

I posted the issue as only STB engine, but the Port is running, just VERY unreliably, so I wanted to address it as disabled for the purpose of the discussion here.

Seriously badass to have so many people chime in with useful information in such a short period of time, and in the area.

Planning the attempt for around 10/3. Looks like the nearest day where the forecasts are under 5 mph winds. Will post some pics of the journey once undertaken and hopefully completed successfully.
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