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Dante D
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I spoke with a member already on this and was wondering if anyone else has seen this before in an F 28
When I purchased my boat , the port engine was not installed, and because of this the boat "listed" to Starboard. I since have installed the engine and still have approx 3 inch list to starboard.
All tanks etc are equalized and no unusual items installed. My cabin however is completely open , with no dinette etc, AS mentioned another member pointed out that both helms are toward starboard (fly and lower) but just seems strange to me. I figured approx 250 lbs on port gunwale will level her off. I know a few members have F 28's any thoughts?
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Are they fuel levels in both thanks the same ? water tanks ? water and fuel are heavy . Anything major missing ? Both engines and gears the same ?
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as I stated in the posting everything is equal, including water/fuel/engines. whats missing is whatever was originally mounted on the port side as soon as you enter the cabin, looks like there may have been a small locker to port ,a dinette or ?? but how much can that weigh? and the original hot water heater which was mounted directly under the foward hatch in the main cabin. What a member mentioned is that both helms are at starboard? I know that stuff is kinda of heavy, could that be it? I already installed ballast to the tune of 240 lbs and its completely level,
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Why would you add ballast of 240 lbs to carry around? When underway Trim tabs will keep you level or even wind effect lean!
Is it really that big a deal to have a tilt when at the dock?
I don't worry about any lean at rest and certainly would not add ballast to increase my fuel burn, there have got to be better ways to achieve this other than adding ballast.....
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Mine does it too and it is normal. Boat still goes where you point it.
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Dante I can see why you are trying to sort this out here are some ideas.

To start I have no idea what is in your boat but I can guess at some weight.... 3 to 4 sheets of 3/8 ply for cabinets ,120 lbs...then a full 5 gal water heater about 60 lbs for a total of 180 then a sink and counter top ,cushions etc so all that stuff missing adds up......these boats are designed to sit fairly level at rest.......another thing, until you know for sure those tank Gage's can be inaccurate especially in round tanks.....Mike
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Here is what the factory layout of the F28 Sedan was fro m'76 to '79.
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What about the batteries? Are they matched? I have a friend with a 24" Bayliner and his single engined boat will list depending upon which side he places his two batteries. He ended up installing one on either side of the engine and crossing the cables back. Just a thought.
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My brother had a 78 F28 and it listed one way. Don't remember which way, but we figured if the water tank was full it might put her straight. There was a problem with the fresh water, so we were never able to see.
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The original freshwater tanks were 40 gallon on port and 20 gallon on starboard total 60. It was done to allow room for the mechanical steering shaft that could be interfered with on the starboard side. On my 78 I replaced both with 30 gallon food grade plastic barrels which fit perfectly and are equal. It still leans to the right, however both barrels are empty at present. The old setup would make it lean to the port I would think.

I have an old thread on this board regarding list and I think the consensus was some boats just have a slight list, and to use trim tabs.

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My Boat used to list when docked bow in.

Now I back it stern in and no list.

Guess I had that baby really tied down!!!
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