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Captain Blast Off wrote:you guys are all forgetting this whole issue started when Obama began telling the churches they had to provide birth control no matter what their belief is. When people rose up he then changed the narrative to womens health which is bull.

The real issue is we have a president that acts like a dictator; going around Congress whenever he can't get a vote; god knows how many Czars that circumvent the Senate confirmation process; imposes mandates that private citizens must purchase healthcare; runs our 747 all over hell and back taking his wife on dates and making campaign trips and I could keep going on for hours. He is a job killer; an economic disaster and a wanna be social engineer.

My oldest son is Marine Corp E.O.D.; my Daughter in Law is Air Force E.O.D.; my second eldest son served 4 years in the Marine Corp; all have seen action and have had close friends lost on foreign ground; I cannot stand to see this President bow to kings and apologize to our enemies while my kids are standing in harms way to keep him safe.

He needs to go now!
First Capt. tell your young Lady and your Sons that as A Veteran and retired Navy Chief, I salute them , and Thank them.

as for the rest of your post SPOT ON ! Yes this person in the White House must go, He has step on us every way he can. The Left in this Country has gone from giving out hand outs to right down robbery on tax payers. And the hidden cost will be felt for yrs. My unemployment tax as gone up 65% since the day he took office and this dumb-ass pay roll tax cut $ 20.00 a week WOW B.F.D. what's the cost of that later ? And for those you say I need that 20. Do you need it now more than you'll need it when your 65 ?

OMG Obama must GO !
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I could not agree more
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I am in agreement with all......can't get into it cause it gets me going and my blood pressure up. I can not imagine how anyone can think otherwise......gonna be tough to get him out....Dems will vote for him, unions will vote for him, blacks will vote for him, gov workers will vote for him, and all those on the take will vote for him......and I'm afraid the is the majority.................John
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We were promised change...well we got it!

more debt
more taxes
more welfare
more regulation
more government
more wasteful spending
more corruption

I think it's time for one more change...............John
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I bow down to every thot in here, but I do beleave this man was set in place by a plan made many many years ago by world leaders, not just the people. Americans are lazy and gullible by whole. Not meaning you!!! just in general. This has been known for a very long time. It is a Phase of a major plan that will set the rest of our lives. You ask how can or will we ever recover from this? Seems impossible doesnt it? Well someone did a good job of pushing us into the wrong direction. My concern is when the *** really does hit the fan. You have all seen whats going on in other countries. What do you think will happen here? We are more socially sophisticated than other countries. lazy and spoiled yes but out break to the streets not so much. More like take to your roof tops and await the freaks and armys marshal law. Its not far away. I dont trust our government, our money says "in god we trust", "not in government we trust". We are looking at all the wrong people and places IMO. Its hear folks and we are all dumb founded looking for something and someone to blame. We are about to be paying the same price for fuel as the rest of the world. They wont drill here becuase they know the fuel will be needed hundreds of years from now. Independence is fading out and as americans its being taking from us. World leaders and bankers were smarter than the people. I myself am glad I wont be around to see what really happens to the american dream. I feel bad for my youth that follows but I feel its out of their hands now. There is just to much power and family money with control in the world now and it has all been giving the ability to grow into a destructive one world system. This is nothing new, its been an issue for over a 100 years, anyone can research it, and the more you read the more it makes sence. look at England like i said before, power vrs poverty. all of us are nothing to someone!! Good luck to America. I will vote even tho it just doesnt matter anymore
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Voting matters... it always matters. What needs to be done is have conversations with family and neighbors and make certain that anyone who feels like we do goes to vote.

If that happens then we will turn the man out; if everyone thinks it doesn't matter then we're lost.
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and make sure those who get the handouts and uninformed vote on the last Thursday of Nov.
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The whole argument about a mandate for BC came up over the weekend in our house. My left leaning niece was over and on her soap box about it. I quietly explained about it being a diversion as noted before in the thread to get Obama out of hot water with the Catholic Church. Anyway, the conversvative objection to this hole issue has nothing to do with women and it took me about 20 min to get that into her head.

The issue is freedom. According to the US Constituion, the people have all the freedom, except for powers enumerated in the Constitution. The governemnt is suppose to protect the freedoms of its citizens, not impose its will upon them.

We should be able to insure any thing that we want, but state governments have made it illegal to issue health policies that do not include certain things. I can no longer buy a major medical only policy in MN. It must include addiction treatment, mental health, etc. So, to cover those issues, everyone nees to pay more. Now Obama wants to impose federal rules on insurance little by little until no private company will write the policy that he is OK with, leaving the government the only entity who will.

I asked my niece, who drives a $15,000 car what she would think if the government mandated that all car insurance policies cover a $60,000 car, rather you had one or not. That the max out of pocket expense on a collision would be $50 and that everyone must cover $10 million in liability. That sounded crazy to her.... I was getting through. Then I said what if when you bought the car, the dealer was required to give you free oil changes, new tires and breaks when you needed it, and a free car wash every 7 calendar days. She said "they would never do that".

If we don't stop these people, freedom will die. Unfortuneatly, as also stated before, the people taking from government now exceed the people the fund it. Freedom may already be lost and we just don't see it yet.
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The excercise you did with your neice needs to occur anytime any of us sees an opening; that is how you return this country to the people who make it great.
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yep....get them when they're young before the university libs brain wash them.

here's something you libs should read, see we understand the name calling you use...http://news.investors.com/article/60412 ... habits.htm
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Defense of our country? Oh, that's right, Rush Limbaugh took down Osama Bin Laden. Economy? Oh, that's right the Dow didn't break13K for the first time since 2007. Jobs? Oh that's right, we didn't bail out Detroit and now none of our car companies are making any money or hiring lots of people back. Partisan bickering and no progress in DC? Oh, that's right, the party that lost the last presidency decided to work WITH the president to get this county back on track.

Now, I know I won't change the minds of those who believe Obama's a socialist or a muslim or a martian, but I will go my own way believing in our way of governing and that in the end it's still the people (aka the those who actually vote) who will make a difference in the way we run our country. I don't agree with my Tea Party neighbors but respect their right to their opinions. I don't agree with many of the Occupy folks but again I think they have just as equal a right as the folks who dress up in tricorn hats and Ben Franklin outfits (who, if he were alive, would be laughing his ass off at those folks).

I think it's really ironic that the folks with all the guns find themselves so threatened by anyone who doesn't agree with them or their views.
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randyp wrote:Defense of our country? Oh, that's right, Rush Limbaugh took down Osama Bin Laden. Economy? Oh, that's right the Dow didn't break13K for the first time since 2007. Jobs? Oh that's right, we didn't bail out Detroit and now none of our car companies are making any money or hiring lots of people back. Partisan bickering and no progress in DC? Oh, that's right, the party that lost the last presidency decided to work WITH the president to get this county back on track.

Now, I know I won't change the minds of those who believe Obama's a socialist or a muslim or a martian, but I will go my own way believing in our way of governing and that in the end it's still the people (aka the those who actually vote) who will make a difference in the way we run our country. I don't agree with my Tea Party neighbors but respect their right to their opinions. I don't agree with many of the Occupy folks but again I think they have just as equal a right as the folks who dress up in tricorn hats and Ben Franklin outfits (who, if he were alive, would be laughing his ass off at those folks).

I think it's really ironic that the folks with all the guns find themselves so threatened by anyone who doesn't agree with them or their views.
The Navy S.E.A.L.s took out O.B.L. the POTUS 44 did what any other one would've, and the intell work started under 43 and I myself don't know if he is a Muslim but I do know he believes in the Social Justice theology of Rev. Wright or he and Michelle would've not sat there for 20 yrs in his church. And he is a Marxist, ( look up forms of govt' ) and it doesn't work look at Greece and the rest of the E.U. Maybe you should look in to what your Tea Party friends say, Maybe your State would be in such a mess of debt, and upstate wouldn't be so depressed,O but didn't Hillary fix that ?
And if the founders of this Great Republic did see this mess they'd cry with shame ! Not laugh....

The DOW at 1300 so ? There's no where to put money world wide..and it's hitting the DOW. I just hope it's not a run up bubble like the DOT.com of the 90's

O and the Car guys now there's a laugh Gm still owns us money and FIAT got Mopar for a song but hey the W.A.U. made out and so did the Obama til. But the Bond and stockholders of those two companies got screwed but that's no big deal is it ? And we got the Chevy Volt that we now kick out a 10k each on. And Toyota is coming out with the 3 gen Prius that will recharge on a plan o'l 110v cord and a small 4 stroke engine, Which will cost in the low to min 20's not 42k.

And work with the POTUS that's a joke....remember that meeting he had where he told the Sen. McCain and the others "I won, you lost " so dude you own it ! over 1 trillion a yr of new debt for what ? not a darn thing but pay offs to unions and fail Green Jobs, And don't try that 50/50 work with me stuff you Dems had the whole thing for 2 yrs and you had to twist arms and buy votes from your side to pass that crap... :wink: [/url]
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And.....I rest my case.
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I am a conserative , I and I can tell you RUSH will never speak for me. him and the lefts BILL MAHER are a waste of good air , but when bill degrads a woman it funny , but rush gets hung for it .

the both need to go asap , and chage is needed in the white house asap if its not to late
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