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Sign of the times???

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:25 pm
by Commissionpoint
So...... The Pope is a quitter? NOBODY quits being Pope. The last person to do it was Gregory XII in 1415, who did so in an effort to end the Western Schism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Schism

So is the Pope just another fella who in modern times decides to walk out on his responsibilities when the going gets tough or hes is feeling poorly? This will be the first Pope not to die in office in about 600 years.

Re: Sign of the times???

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:18 pm
by prowlersfish
He knew the job was getting to much at his age . I belive he did the right thing . lets hope this gives Pelosi a Idea to also do the right thing .

Re: Sign of the times???

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:04 pm
by Big D
I'm on the fence on this one. I was brought up Catholic. There is something to be said about stepping down when it's felt that it would be best for the cause. There is also something to be said about carrying on an ageless tradition, however, I for one am of the belief that just because it's tradition doesn't mean we should oppose change for the better given the times. It would take generations to happen on a wholesale level but I keep hearing about a decline in the faith, I'm thinking a little change to bring it into this century might be a good thing right now! I also hear about another religion that is gaining intense momentum. The Catholics better roll up their sleeves lest they lose ground!

Re: Sign of the times???

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:02 pm
by Commissionpoint
Big D wrote:I'm on the fence on this one. I was brought up Catholic. There is something to be said about stepping down when it's felt that it would be best for the cause. There is also something to be said about carrying on an ageless tradition, however, I for one am of the belief that just because it's tradition doesn't mean we should oppose change for the better given the times. It would take generations to happen on a wholesale level but I keep hearing about a decline in the faith, I'm thinking a little change to bring it into this century might be a good thing right now! I also hear about another religion that is gaining intense momentum. The Catholics better roll up their sleeves lest they lose ground!
Interesting. I don't have a horse in this race, but I was hoping to hear from someone that did. My insight is purely from a historical perspective.

I think you are onto something there with the change is good espescially in a time of declining faith. I would think that a younger Pope (say 30 years younger than Ratzinger was when he was elected) could help with that. I also think staying away from names like Benedict, Honorius and Pius and maybe steering more towards John, Martin, or Stephen would be a bit more modern as well.

Lucky for the Catholics, our Catholic VP, Joe Biden, has already said he is "not running" for Pope. I'm sure that statement was met with some degree of relief in the Vatican. ;)

Re: Sign of the times???

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:20 am
by alexander38
Maybe he's stepping aside so a younger Pope can gather a great army of Knights and march East again.... :mrgreen:

Re: Sign of the times???

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:40 pm
by Commissionpoint
I think that was the Third Crusade you are refering to. Richard the First of England (Coeur de Lion) vs. Saladin. Saladin kinda got his butt kicked for awhile there but in the end didn't come out too badly.

Re: Sign of the times???

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:18 pm
by alexander38
no no CP you're thinking History, I'm thinkin' making it :wink:

Re: Sign of the times???

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:20 pm
by Big D
alexander38 wrote:....gather a great army of Knights and march East again....
I'm going to stay clear of that one :shock: :wink:
It seems Politics and Religion always seem to bring out the extreme side of people. :shock:

Re: Sign of the times???

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:25 pm
by prowlersfish
I will say it again Your a wiseman Mr Big D :wink:

Re: Sign of the times???

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:11 pm
by alexander38
[quote="prowlersfish"]I will say it again Your a wiseman Mr Big D :wink:[/quote]

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Re: Sign of the times???

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:42 pm
by Commissionpoint
Big D wrote:
alexander38 wrote:....gather a great army of Knights and march East again....
I'm going to stay clear of that one :shock: :wink:
It seems Politics and Religion always seem to bring out the extreme side of people. :shock:
Its the religious politics you really have to watch out for. :shock:

Re: Sign of the times???

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:42 am
by alexander38
[quote="Commissionpoint"][quote="Big D"][quote="alexander38"]....gather a great army of Knights and march East again....[/quote]

I'm going to stay clear of that one :shock: :wink:
It seems Politics and Religion always seem to bring out the extreme side of people. :shock:[/quote]

Its the religious politics you really have to watch out for. :shock:[/quote]

BINGO !

Remember the the Waffen S/S had God is on our side, on their belt buckles,.....and how many times has the words God is Great been yell'd just before the BOOM !

Re: Sign of the times???

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:04 am
by captainmaniac
alexander38 wrote:and how many times has the words God is Great been yell'd just before the BOOM !
How many times? Don't know. But probably at least 90% of the times.