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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:58 am
by aaronbocknek
uniflite never used trojan hulls as their hulls were thicker (if you can imagine that) and fire proof. uniflite used a fire proof resin and layup. another builder that did not use trojan hulls was CONCORDE (as in owens-concorde) talk about a bullet proof hull design and layup. anyway, i'm not exactly sure what other companies used trojan hulls. i had new sea cocks put on in may and the old thru-bolt holes needed to be glassed over as the new valves could not use what was there. the glass guy at edwards boat yard told me that he loves working on trojan hulls because of the resin and glass matt they used. he said a trojan hull is one of the best and easiest to work with, they are solid, and he has never, in his 35 year career, seen a trojan hull with blister problems.
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:29 am
by JuiceClark
I'm pretty sure Pacemaker used the F-36 hull - had a brainf*art when I said Uniflight. That fire-proof resin blisters so badly that it really makes a USCG approved boat unattractive....still haven't invented a fix for it today.
After paying for 4 guys to create a new hull mold (took 3,000 sheets of sandpaper to get it just right), I can see the appeal of buying a great hull from another company!
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:57 am
by jarhead
After paying for 4 guys to create a new hull mold (took 3,000 sheets of sandpaper to get it just right), I can see the appeal of buying a great hull from another company
JuiceClark what do you mean by that statement not up on my Trojan boat history?
Jerry
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:17 pm
by rossjo
Check the forum - Tony is building a new boat from scratch ...
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:16 pm
by JuiceClark
Thanks Ross...didn't explain myself well in that last post. Making the new molds was brutally laborious and expensive, but we still spent less than half of having another company make the plug for us.
The molds are mostly all done. I told the guys I'd start marketing the boat when unemployment turns positive because that usually signals the downturn is getting over. With the numbers yesterday, looks like it might be awhile longer:
http://www.chartoftheday.com/20090703.htm?T
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:26 pm
by rossjo
"The Juice is Loose" ... building boats in this economy
UDAMAN Tony!
Send us some pix of the mold ...
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:19 am
by JuiceClark
rossjo wrote:"The Juice is Loose" ... building boats in this economy
UDAMAN Tony!
Send us some pix of the mold ...
There's a few older pix on the website:
http://britestaryachts.com/Photo_Album.php?aa=0&si0=7
Thanks...might be a broke man!
We just wanted a big, bruiser style battlewagon that could be taken overnight to the big drop-off at 120 miles out here in the Gulf without going over 50' LOA. There were only two chine designs we thought were perfect and both sets of molds are gone. On a very wide boat (17' beam) the bow to chine transition is everything.
So, using the old Key West #1 chine mechanics we made a new design. The tournament fishermen don't get it because they like racing hulls, but the ol' salty commercial guys do. We're hoping it will be the battlewagon design for those who want a comfortable cruiser as well and fishing boat with a cruise under 28k. Now we just need a buyer with a spare million laying around!!
If you know anyone, send them and I'll give you a fat, 5 figure referral commission when they buy.
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:35 am
by rossjo
Sharp boat Tony!
Power?
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:57 pm
by willietrojan
JuiceClark,
Pacemaker never used any hulls from Trojan, they built their own. Now Egg Harbor did buy their fiberglass hulls from Pacemaker
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:35 pm
by JuiceClark
rossjo wrote:Sharp boat Tony!
Power?
Thanks! MTU, CAT, Cummins and Iveco have all been out and done the plans for their engine(s). Just based on the power curve and price, I'd have to go with Iveco. Their 740hp are only $65k vs. $100k for Cat and MTU. If I
ever get my own built, will use a big single (1300hp) with an electric auxiliary off the genny. Need to sell a couple before that fine day!
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:39 pm
by JuiceClark
willietrojan wrote:JuiceClark,
Pacemaker never used any hulls from Trojan, they built their own. Now Egg Harbor did buy their fiberglass hulls from Pacemaker
Oh yeah...that's who I was thinkin' of! There someone did. With Warnike that makes at least two.
The more I look at that 44, the more I like that builder. The name Warnike doesn't pull up any other boats on Yachtworld.
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:52 pm
by JuiceClark
JuiceClark wrote:rossjo wrote:Sharp boat Tony!
Power?
Thanks! MTU, CAT, Cummins and Iveco have all been out to the shop and done the plans for their engine(s). Just based on the power curve and price, I'd have to go with Iveco. Their 740hp are only $65k vs. $100k for Cat and MTU. If I
ever get my own built, will use a big single (1300hp) with an electric auxiliary off the genny. Need to sell a couple before that fine day though!
A doctor here on nearby Captiva has only 4 feet depth when approaching his dock. With such a wide beam, the Brite Star hull only drafts about 2'. So, I'm trying to talk him into Hamilton Jets with those Iveco twins making up for the extra expense...would be an interesting ride.
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:46 am
by jarhead
Juice,
Warnike only built 4 of those 44's.