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Re: Inverter Question

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:22 am
by WayWeGo
New Bern to Norfolk by ICW is 207 miles. Norfolk to the east end of the C&D Canal is another 209 miles, for a total of 416 plus the distance to your dock from the mouth of the C&D. http://www.nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/nsd/ ... tances.pdf

With 454 Crusaders, you should be getting about .65mpg, so at fuel prices averaging about $3.50, you should expect the fuel bill to be in the neighborhood of $2,500. https://activecaptain.com/fuelLists/fuelIndex.php

Re: Inverter Question

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 6:28 pm
by gettaway
Ed,

very interesting topic and I'll throw my two cents in
Don't allow yourself to get bogged down over the generator and the wacky inverter /battery arrangement, If you love the boat, I wouldn't let an old Onan MCCK 6.5 generator kill the deal. I might remove all of the batteries and inverter system merely for weights sake. Honestly, unless that old Onan had perfect care prior to you buying the boat, it was most likely nothing more that a money sucking - temper flaring hunk of crap. Parts are hard to find and very expensive and they are very temperamental.

I have the same piece of $#!+ on our boat and I run a Honda EU2000 when anchored to run the fridge , battery charger and heat water and I never worry and cant hear it when its running up on the bow.

Re: Inverter Question

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:20 am
by Notniuq21
Hello All.....
Sorry for the delay....just wanted to give a quick update on what happened.
Well, I had the survey. A very knowledgeable person who is SAMS certified ....and also happens to have an "electrical" background.
The owner was there also, as he was supposed to drive the boat for the sea-trial. To make a long story short....we never made it to the sea-trial. The surveyor was not happy with the inverter set-up the owner installed. I asked the surveyor to look at this first....and if it wasn't right to stop the survey. He found a lot of things wrong with this set up and said it was a big safety hazard. He used a lot of electrical "mumbo jumbo" words that I half followed...but he did make sense. Thats when all he** broke loose. The owner and he got into a heated argument, with the owner hurling insults at the surveyor ( I won't go into the details). Anyway, I just had a bad gut feeling....with other things he said that he replaced/repaired on the boat, and it wasn't even done. I backed out of the deal. Even the surveyor had "bad vibes" about this owner and didn't have a good feeling just by talking to him.
You guys are right, there are other Trojans out there...and I've been looking at a few more 10/ 10.8 Meters.
Made a few offers....I 'll see what happens.
Thanks again for all your insight...advice...opinions, and especially encouragement.
This is the best forum I've ever seen!! :D

Re: Inverter Question

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:29 am
by gitchisum
Sorry you had that experience, but glad it worked out.

Still a buyers market!! good luck

Re: Inverter Question

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:30 am
by gettaway
Ed,

Good job, a lot of people let their emotions take over and make bad decisions and look back and say, "I should have gone with my gut feeling" you just saved yourself a huge headache and money pit.

Keep looking, there are a lot of good Trojan boats out there, find yourself one that already has diesels

Re: Inverter Question

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 3:19 pm
by rickalan35
Gettaway said, [*Don't allow yourself to get bogged down over the generator and the wacky inverter /battery arrangement, If you love the boat, I wouldn't let an old Onan MCCK 6.5 generator kill the deal. I might remove all of the batteries and inverter system merely for weights sake. Honestly, unless that old Onan had perfect care prior to you buying the boat, it was most likely nothing more that a money sucking - temper flaring hunk of crap. Parts are hard to find and very expensive and they are very temperamental.]

Wow, what a long and involved saga this has been.

I had a tendency to agree with Gettaway and his advice to try and negotiate yourself away from the inverter set-up and forget all about the missing generator.

Then if the rest of the boat stacked up, you could go could go get yourself a nice new genny after making the purchase.

But only if the boat itself had good bones and was just unfortunately shackled by a wacky but hopefully responsible and reasonable owner.

If the Surveyor found the boat to be sound, I thought you could have got her sorted out to your own tastes later on.

Then the long distance delivery issue popped up with the cost of gas, wear and tear on the trip and insurance etc etc. and I didn't like that.

But, when the owner snapped at the Surveyor, instead of being interested in what the Surveyor was trying to point out, it was a tell tale warning and if it were me, I would have decided to move along to another boat.

I learned quite a bit from Big D's list of points that I certainly didn't know before.

Good luck with the new search.

Re: Inverter Question

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 4:47 pm
by gettaway
rickalan35 wrote:Gettaway said, [*Don't allow yourself to get bogged down over the generator and the wacky inverter /battery arrangement, If you love the boat, I wouldn't let an old Onan MCCK 6.5 generator kill the deal. I might remove all of the batteries and inverter system merely for weights sake. Honestly, unless that old Onan had perfect care prior to you buying the boat, it was most likely nothing more that a money sucking - temper flaring hunk of crap. Parts are hard to find and very expensive and they are very temperamental.]

Wow, what a long and involved saga this has been.

I had a tendency to agree with Gettaway and his advice to try and negotiate yourself away from the inverter set-up and forget all about the missing generator.

Then if the rest of the boat stacked up, you could go could go get yourself a nice new genny after making the purchase.

But only if the boat itself had good bones and was just unfortunately shackled by a wacky but hopefully responsible and reasonable owner.

If the Surveyor found the boat to be sound, I thought you could have got her sorted out to your own tastes later on.

Then the long distance delivery issue popped up with the cost of gas, wear and tear on the trip and insurance etc etc. and I didn't like that.

But, when the owner snapped at the Surveyor, instead of being interested in what the Surveyor was trying to point out, it was a tell tale warning and if it were me, I would have decided to move along to another boat.

I learned quite a bit from Big D's list of points that I certainly didn't know before.

Good luck with the new search.
ditto...

Re: Inverter Question

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:00 pm
by Big D
This is a perfect example of what I tried to relay in my previous post that just because one has seemingly all the right credentials in a particular/related field means very little if it's not marine specific, there are so many differences. Glad someone in the know called him out on it. Suddenly all the money he said he spent on it means squat, worst yet, it's unsafe!

Good luck in your search. You'll find her eventually.

Re: Inverter Question

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:16 pm
by prowlersfish
Big D wrote:This is a perfect example of what I tried to relay in my previous post that just because one has seemingly all the right credentials in a particular/related field means very little if it's not marine specific, there are so many differences. Glad someone in the know called him out on it. Suddenly all the money he said he spent on it means squat, worst yet, it's unsafe!

Good luck in your search. You'll find her eventually.
Agreed

Re: Inverter Question

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:47 pm
by prowlersfish
I see its back on Ebay at a lower price

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-TROJAN-10- ... 1476912073