Engine Synchronizer

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:24 pm

I am a yahoo and proud of it ! I will use the throttles if needed to dock ( almost always with a gas boat) . but remember around here we back in to slips with a current or tide running . so we have to spin the boat around 90 to 180 deg and some throttle can be helpful . A lot different then pulling bow in . I would never pull bow in at 5 knots ( back in maybe

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Commissionpoint · Post by **Commissionpoint** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:49 am

I wasn't talking about you Paul. AFAIK you have never crashed into any dock I have ever been on. Besides, I would never lump you in with the 'yahoos'. They might take offense.

We also park stern in. I do it here at the house, and most of the bigger marinas here are set up this way too. http://www.hbyc.com/

BTW there are 2 F boats for sale at that marina. One is a 36 and one is a 32. I looked at them both before I bought Nancys boat. The 36 was overpriced and the seller wouldn't negotiate, and the 32 was inexpensive, but not my cup of tea. (It was a putty colored 1987). I'll post the link in a new thread. Somebody should make a home for the 32.

summer storm · Post by **summer storm** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:05 pm

I would never call someone a yahoo because they are using the throttles to move a boat into a slip/dock. There is no reason to be afraid of using power to put the boat where it needs to go. Many many times I've had to get the turbos going on a boat just to slowly move toward the dock.

I would call someone a yahoo if-

1. they steam toward the dock and go all back to stop the boat just in time when it's really not needed.

2. They start the docking by yelling "hang on"

3. Their use of the controls makes everyone onboard lurch foward then backward a number of times

4. They are yelling at the wife because she can't get a line on the piling while the boat is going 5 ft forward and backward all the time.

5. They tell the wife "whatever happens do not let go of that piling" and then leave her there hanging on it while they come around again.

6. At the end of every docking they make the statement "that's what insurance is for"

captainmaniac · Post by **captainmaniac** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:14 pm

You missed one : They put the safety of those on the dock who attempt to help them at severe risk by their reckless, arbitrary, and unpredictable actions.

I have walked away from helping a few guys because it was just too dangerous to do so.

summer storm · Post by **summer storm** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:47 pm

captainmaniac wrote:You missed one : They put the safety of those on the dock who attempt to help them at severe risk by their reckless, arbitrary, and unpredictable actions.

I have walked away from helping a few guys because it was just too dangerous to do so.

good point-

I would call someone a yahoo if-

7. Everyone on the dock starts to run when they are pulling in

captainmaniac · Post by **captainmaniac** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:26 pm

summer storm wrote:7. Everyone on the dock starts to run when they are pulling in

Sometimes they don't run, but when there is a chorus of "oh crap, here we go again".... that'ts a pretty good clue to what's going to happen.

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:10 pm

I am still a yahoo

"2. They start the docking by yelling "hang on" "

I will tell someone to hold on as the boat will jump when put in gear

3. "Their use of the controls makes everyone onboard lurch foward then backward a number of times . "

See # 2

I am a Yahoo and my diesels help

"5. They tell the wife "whatever happens do not let go of that piling" and then leave her there hanging on it while they come around again."

Now that sounds like fun

And yes I am having some fun here

rossjo · Post by **rossjo** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:16 pm

Those are funny, and so true.

Like a public ramp after July 4th fireworks are over.

larryeddington · Post by **larryeddington** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:59 pm

An experienced marine captain/helmsman of small boats does not need anyone to man the dock if done correctly, given our boats small size. Manning the lines and dock is asking someone to get hurt, especially if a "Yahoo is running the boat"

It has been my experience that the line handlers try to be too helpful and can get in the way. Unless properly trained.
I have seen them stick their shoe (with foot inside) between the dock and a 13,000 lb boat. No foot is worth saving a ding on a boat.

Nuff said.

Good luck Barry with the rpm issues.

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:11 pm

Yachtsman

"Noun 1. yachtsman - a person who owns or sails a yacht "

There are boaters and there are boat owners .anyone can be a owner but not everyone is a boater . Guess the same goes for yachts

And there is us Yahoos

Allen Sr · Post by **Allen Sr** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:10 am

prowlersfish wrote:Yachtsman

"Noun 1. yachtsman - a person who owns or sails a yacht "

There are boaters and there are boat owners .anyone can be a owner but not everyone is a boater . Guess the same goes for yachts

And there is us Yahoos

DITTO!

Like the guy that rents the slip next to me! His gf is new to boating and he about throws her off the boat putting it in gear. The boat idles at about 1,000rpms and when he puts it in gear it goes even higher. (All the adjustments are wrong on it and he won't repair it!) He has almost hit my boat numerous times when he does............... not sure what I will do, but it won't be pretty! Then we have another owner that lets his young kids run all over the bow while underway, they average 3 to 9 yrs old! Enough ranting!

BMILLER · Post by **BMILLER** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:15 am

Well, I started this topic that has gotten so out of control, here's my 2c to its latest direction.

Since I consider myself a definite novice with a F28, have enough issues with the boat to keep it in its slip until all systems are functional and dependable, have one engine that idles at 750 and the other struggles to stay below 1100 and I have enough sense to try to fix my rpm problem....before.........I try to take it out for a "ride" and possibly cause damage or injury to anyone or property...........................am I a good yahoo or a bad yahoo........

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BTW, I still can't find why the one engine won't idle down........even when backing off the adjustment. This was the original thought of synchronizer to attempt to go fwd straight at idle. And it starts very hard too. Gotta be an air leak

larryeddington · Post by **larryeddington** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:28 am

You are probably aware of intake vacuum leak will cause high idle. Have you rebuilt the carbs yet. Mine were gunked up and kits are available to rebuild. Hope your carbies have the red tag on them so you can get the correct model number and kit if you have not yet done so.

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:09 pm

BMILLER wrote:Well, I started this topic that has gotten so out of control, here's my 2c to its latest direction.

Since I consider myself a definite novice with a F28, have enough issues with the boat to keep it in its slip until all systems are functional and dependable, have one engine that idles at 750 and the other struggles to stay below 1100 and I have enough sense to try to fix my rpm problem....before.........I try to take it out for a "ride" and possibly cause damage or injury to anyone or property...........................am I a good yahoo or a bad yahoo........)

BTW, I still can't find why the one engine won't idle down........even when backing off the adjustment. This was the original thought of synchronizer to attempt to go fwd straight at idle. And it starts very hard too. Gotta be an air leak

Check to make sure the secondaries are closing all the way they could be just cracked open, also Check the fast idel cam for the choke could be sticking also . pretty common problems

BMILLER · Post by **BMILLER** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:31 pm

I've tried my very soapy water method to try to fnd the leak...........nada? The PO, according to the service records last year had the carb in mention rebuilt for a tidy sum of over $600. He could have bought a Edlebrock (or 2) had he shopped around a bit. Before I dump a bunch of $$ into the OEMs, I'll save up and get the 1409s. I'll use come choke cleaner on that cam and check to make certain it has no burrs or rough spots and look down to see the secondaries are closed. The PO hadn't moved this boat more than a mile from its slip (only to a party island and back) in 6 yrs. But he did have a lot of engine issues...probably from sitting and never really getting up to temp and blowing out all the carbon buidup. He told me he never and for me to never exceed 2400 rpm. The saga continues to build.