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Well I worked outside today is was in the low 50's and had a good wind, so I started grinding out blisters ! Yes blisters ! I popped around 15 of the in November when I hauled so today I went digging them out. The P.O. had some work done in the past as I found out ! 13 of them had been worked on in the past, Needless to say the Sailor talk was a flyin' if you ever heard a pissed Type A sailor.. So 5 hrs in to grinding they're almost all dug out and now for faring them back so I can fill them in AGAIN right...I think it was the first time I've seen dry hand laid glass.... I'll post some pic's soon I know I know Trojans don't get these things....Your LUCKY...
Carver 3607 ACMY 454's Merc's
10' Dinghy 6hp Merc.
La Dolce Vita
Let's hit the water !
alexander38 wrote:....I know I know Trojans don't get these things....
WRONG!
I've repaired a few; F30, F32, 40MY, 11m, and trying to convince a few more to do the same; 2 x F36, a Tri, and a 12m MY, but $$$. Every OEM has their bad lay-up days. Some more than others though. Always a good a idea to inspect your hull periodically even if you think the OEM's hulls have a good reputation.
She was a 1969 36 ft wooden beauty with big blue 440s that we'll miss forever.
And thanks to the gang, 2012 Trojan Boater Of The Year
aaaw, I feel better now... I think setting in the water for about 11 yrs with short hauls for paint helped them form as well as voids and dry glass. I found one in the bow that was both. Lots of glass and vinyl going in that one
Carver 3607 ACMY 454's Merc's
10' Dinghy 6hp Merc.
La Dolce Vita
Let's hit the water !
Mine has a few after 19 years in the water full time wit the P.O.
They are GONE now !
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Layup is part of it, care and maintenance by the owner is the other part. If you don't use an appropriate antifouling or barrier coat, you drastically increase odds of osmosis.
I have seen people decide that they are going to stretch 1 gallon of the cheapest antifouling they can buy to cover the whole bottom, and expect it to last for 3-4 years. I have seen some try to stretch 1 or 2 quarts! They get problems (surprise, surprise!) They also don't care about their problems, because apparently that is the next owner's problem.
With the right protection, most hulls (on well built boats) will be fine. With extra protection, most hulls on boats that might not have been that well built will be fine. Strip it all down, add a barrier coat, then good antifouling, and stay on top of it, and the problems will go away.
Wow, just a coupla small ones , eh? Yikes. You gonna strip down to gelcoat the whole bottom and redo/add a barrier coat. Also, I saw your boats sisters ip yesterday. Man what a nice boat.
[quote="DOUBLE R"]Wow, just a coupla small ones , eh? Yikes. You gonna strip down to gelcoat the whole bottom and redo/add a barrier coat. Also, I saw your boats sisters ip yesterday. Man what a nice boat.[/quote]
Nope not going to strip her down, thought about it for a long time. "But" there's a down side to doing that, I'd need a dry place to store her and dry her out real good. I also found that almost all of the blisters were old one's that were not repaired right and grew from half-ass work and the over use of epoxy fillers instead of using vinylester and 1708 bi-axle and mat. That's the biggest reason the the new work is so large I took the old stuff out, when I was grinding on her you could see where if they first repair stopped short of getting the bad glass the first time. I found only 3 new ones. I've also seen the results of stripping the gel-coat off the re-doing it and barrier coat on a boat that did get dried out enough and boy that wasn't a nice sight, it looked like a 100 yr old face it wrinkled up so bad. And striping the bottom paint off and then barrier coating the old gel-coat could just lock any water in to her. I'm going to go with the fix as I find them approach.
"Also, I saw your boats sisters ip yesterday. Man what a nice boat."
and thanks for showing an interest
Carver 3607 ACMY 454's Merc's
10' Dinghy 6hp Merc.
La Dolce Vita
Let's hit the water !
Unless you have lots of blisters I would not strip the bottom . You could make it a lot worse . Many boats that have had it done get the blisters back . Even the best pros seem to have issues . Good prep is the key . I believe a lot of repairs fail due to lack of drying time . who wants to miss a season ? I will disagree about epoxy being a cause ( assuming the right epoxy was used and used right) If I had some most likely west system would be my choice ,But nothing wrong with using vinylester also a good choice .
If am looking a boat and it had a few blisters ,it would not scare me . But if had the gel coat striped and a new barrier coat done I would walk away , No I would run .
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prowlersfish wrote:....Good prep is the key....I believe a lot of repairs fail due to lack of drying time...I will disagree about epoxy being a cause...
BINGO!!
She was a 1969 36 ft wooden beauty with big blue 440s that we'll miss forever.
And thanks to the gang, 2012 Trojan Boater Of The Year
I'll not get in to the whole epoxy thing, I just think it's over used like 5200...IMO
Prep, Is always #1 and not doing it will lead to failure for sure. Today I finished glassing the last of them. Now tomorrow the weather is going to suck so I'll have to wait to start fairing in..
Carver 3607 ACMY 454's Merc's
10' Dinghy 6hp Merc.
La Dolce Vita
Let's hit the water !
captainmaniac wrote:
I have seen people decide that they are going to stretch 1 gallon of the cheapest antifouling they can buy to cover the whole bottom, and expect it to last for 3-4 years.
HA HA HA HA SOMEONE IS TALKING ABOUT ME! Truth be told - the cheap stuff doesnt last one season!
So 5 hrs in to grinding they're almost all dug out and now for faring them back so I can fill them in AGAIN right...I think it was the first time I've seen dry hand laid glass.... 
I'll post some pic's soon I know I know Trojans don't get these things....Your LUCKY...
