Trojan Boat Forum

Where? In to the bilge?

Mine is hooked to a pump that sends it over board , My f30 when in to the bilge and the bilge pump took care of it . if you use the shower a lot I would hook up a pump . if only rarely then you would be OK draining in to the bilge IMO.

O ! that's nasty. need a sump box with a pump in it and a hair filter, or a bellows type pump.

Mine uses a Diaphragm type pump ( bellows type ?) and has a filter . but the trap/screen in the shower works well so the filter stays clean .

i dont have hair, or a shower, i have a shower floor. hmmmm i want a shower now. cant i just run the drain out the side of the boat? i was kidding but now im not because i thought i read shower water was still grey water.

Right now gray water is ok overboard ( that will change. ) . You can't just drain it over board , because the shower drain is below the water line so it needs a pump .

I have had boats with three different shower drain configurations:

- drain into bilge
- drain thru cockpit scuppers
-drain into pre-fab sump box which comes with a hair filter cylinder, can drain three different sinks/showers, and is powerd by a cheap Rule bilge pump.

The latter is by far the best and is readily available in common catalogs, and cheap.

Draining into the bilge causes accumulation of grease, scum, hair, soap/shampoo and stinky stuff in th bilge which is very tough to clean out.

John

k i get it now, head is only thing that i havent removed, doesnt look fun but i have to now, just to much mold in the cabin. I will be learning the head tomorro before the bleach down, night guys i hit my smoke # limit for the day, time to crash LOL

drjohn71a wrote:I have had boats with three different shower drain configurations:

- drain into bilge
- drain thru cockpit scuppers
-drain into pre-fab sump box which comes with a hair filter cylinder, can drain three different sinks/showers, and is powerd by a cheap Rule bilge pump.

The latter is by far the best and is readily available in common catalogs, and cheap.

Draining into the bilge causes accumulation of grease, scum, hair, soap/shampoo and stinky stuff in th bilge which is very tough to clean out.

John

i can see that, good point

my International has a large sump with a Rule 360

the question is....

HOW CAN YOU GET ALL THE WATER OUT OF THERE ?

RWS

My experience is that you can never get all the water out. Frequent cleaning ( if you shower much), coupled with after use "flushing" with clean water keepsitfresh. Winterized by putting marine antifreeze thru drains.

When installing the sump, keep in mind the ease of cleaning. Most have clear top covers so you can monitor them. Four small Phillips head screws attach the top.

John

Thats one reason I like using a pump without a sump you can pump it dry , you just have to remember to turn it off the Diaphragm type can be heard so its easy to remember .

Since the sump box is located low, and the exit hose must loop up to the gunwale level before going down to just above water level, all that extra water I the line is what drains back into the sump when the pump turns off.

While generally not advisable, some ppl put a back flow preventer valve in this sump line.

John

I've found that a little simple green down the drains keeps the box clean.

no sump box in the International.

Just a simple liner that is really large and flat, with a lil 360 Rule bilge pump.

There is however a clever overflow hole that would eventually drain into the fwd bilge in the event od a failure.

That hole would also allow the fwd bilge to drain into the shower sump in the event of a rise in bilge water

but seriously, how could I get tha to get dry after use, or is it the job of a full sized terry cloth towel, followed up with spray nine?

RWS