Trojan 2 - 3 Party System & the What Ifs

[alexander38]

man I'm not steppin in to this bar room I can see ball bats already....I'll give my 2cents if you guys won't beat me to death.

[RWS]

If you'll buy a round or three, we promise not to hit you for telling us what you think.

Now, when did you first have these feelings?

RWS

[prowlersfish]

man I'm not steppin in to this bar room I can see ball bats already....I'll give my 2cents if you guys won't beat me to death.

Make it 20 bucks

[rbcool]

If you'll buy a round or three, we promise not to hit you for telling us what you think.

Now, when did you first have these feelings?

RWS

lmao

[297Elegante]

Here is my perspective from a non-Trojan owner.

The F series (specifically F32 and F36) are truly timeless looking boats. Like stated above, a mid 70s boat that just doesn't look like a mid 70s boat. A well cared for F32 or F36 can be parked in the nicest marina/dock and noone would scoff at the "old boat".

I agree that had they kept them around, a little updating would have kept the boat alive and well. I will say though, the F32s layout is impressive. There aren't a ton of boats in that size range with the usable space the F32 has. My father had a 33' Chris Craft with a similar layout, and it worked out great, very roomy. With the F32 being wider, I can imagine it only feels roomier.

I have only had my rig for a season, and will be hanging onto it for some time, but when that right F32 comes along... I'm 99% sure that will be my upgrade.

[aaronbocknek]

when phil and i were bringing around our tri cabin a few weekends ago (pre jimmy hoffa) it was his first ride in a tri cabin. i've dulled his senses on countless occasions extolling the virtues of this particular boats ride and comfort. i chose to run head on into a wake of an oncoming carver that was throwing up a heck of a displacement wake at low speeds. the only thing we felt was the motion of the hull cutting through the wake as opposed to over it. and she was light considering there was less than half a tank of fuel, no water in the water tank and no personal effects onboard. as light as she was, she handled the wake like a trawler. then, i wanted to have him experience the ride in a beam sea. again, she came through like a champ. at 2800rpm, he ventured onto the side decks and did a walk around. he held on, but when he came back into the helm area, he mentioned that he felt really safe and secure walking on the decks while underway. and this coming from not the most surefooted of individuals god love him. the only thing that he suggested that could have changed is the cabin entrance door/hatch. i've warned him repetedly that he needs to watch his head or he will get nailed every time. sure enough, BAM. right on the forehead. twice. as someone that grew up with a tri cabin, i know to duck before entering or exiting the cabin. as i've said before, two years ago when chatting with an old man that worked at carver after the trojan takeover, he still is bummed out that they destroyed the molds. the f-32 would probably still sell today with updated materials and engine options, as i firmly believe the f-36 tri cabin would too..... as for the 'trawler type' version, trojan actually did do a something like that with the trojan f-40 motor yacht. built on the famous 'duel mode' hull, she operated at efficient displacement or at higher speeds. the room in a 40' footprint is unsurpassed by todays standards.

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1979/Tr ... ted-States

they also at one time had a 54' pilot house motor yacht what would still sell in todays market. talk about timeless classic design. i actually saw one in annapolis when she made her debut in 1977. god what a boat she was/and still is.......

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1978/Tr ... ted-States

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1977/Tr ... ted-States

i think that if one did market research, some of these vessels could be revived today. my mechanic is always impressed at how well these old trojans look, especially if they are taken care of. the tri cabins could use some updated and more weather proof window frames but other than that, there is not much room for improvement when it comes to things like that. i will never forget when phil and i pulled into our slip for the first time with the tri cabin. the positive comments were amazing. many thought she was much newer than 1982. (thanks paul for convincing me that the 'red one' was the way to go!)

[rossjo]

Wow - I never knew Trojan did a Pilot House - thats sweeeeeeeeeet.

Twin Detroit 665HP diesels, 15kW Genny, 635 gallon fuel tanks, 3 staterooms, 2 heads.

$218k - think I could live on that!

But alas - it has no saloon - just a salon

[aaronbocknek]

she was and still is one sweet vessel. if memory serves, the most unique thing i remember about the 54 PHMY is the engine room.... all the way in the back and stand up. engines used HUGE v-drives. access was from the hatch on the back deck using the ladder to go down into the engine 'pit' area. the genset and other mechanicals like a/c units and water heater is under the galley area forward of the second stateroom. i believe she was made in the elkton, md plant.

aaron in baltimore

[summer storm]

I always liked the 47 (the 40 with a cockpit)

[Audrey II]

man I'm not steppin in to this bar room I can see ball bats already....I'll give my 2cents if you guys won't beat me to death.

At the risk of being beat to death. I will say this although many here might disagree. I truly believe Carver had their hands full trying to live up to the Trojan name. It's my understanding that continuing the line was not an option. They set their sites high and did there best to do what some of you are saying, they introduced an express line with updated cabin features such as corian counter tops modern electronics, lighting and of course diesel motors. Although it may not be a Trojan of yesteryear it is a battle wagon that handles like a dream and has timeless lines just like before. I love my boat and I have had many come on board and not believe it is a 96' going on 15 years old. (timeless) I believe in 98' they went the cherry wood route. The 440 has a 15' beam continuing the tradition of the roomy interior.
I have no doubt that if they continued the line the way its was with only a few updates it would have sold well, however like everything sooner or later people demand change.
I believe we are all fortunate to have boats that we love and are passionate about even if it is a Carver:) I'll spare you all the pictures of my boat and save them for another thread.

[rbcool]

Audrey...... if it has a Saloon i wanna see pics

[Audrey II]

Audrey...... if it has a Saloon i wanna see pics

Sorry it has a salon I thought about putting in a stripper pole which you would be more apt to find in a saloon, but the wife said no:(

[rbcool]

LOL...... Dang Admirals!!!!

[captainmaniac]

At the risk of being beat to death. I will say this although many here might disagree. I truly believe Carver had the hands full trying to live up to the Trojan name. It's my understanding that continuing the line was not an option. They set their sites high and did there best to do what some of you are saying

I don't know if you knew this or not, but the thing a makes most Trojan owners a little p-o'd with Carver, is that when they bought Trojan they chose to destroy all the molds for all the existing models. They guaranteed that no more would ever be produced, and that getting spare parts would be more of a challenge as well. My view is all they cared about was owning the name, and didn't really give a crap about the product. Today you can buy Carvers in several different names... a 'Trojan' is a Carver. A Marquis is also a Carver. They are just putting a different name on it so you don't know you are really buying a Carver product.

[rbcool]

That is one sexy lady. I'm starting a second penny jar