Trojan 2 - 3 Party System & the What Ifs

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It should be noted that Harley Davidson managed shed their AMF shackles in 1983 when former HD executives arranged to re-purchase the company, develop the "evolution" engine and make a ton of money.

Guess my boat is coming out of the water tomorrow. 34 degrees and raining.
2010 officially over and winter projects begin.

Lets see, what do I have now to look forward to..... uhhhhh.....
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Having gone to the Annapolis show, I’ve come to the conclusion that a contemporary form of the F32 isn’t made. IMO, the F32 was years ahead of its time. I view it in today’s terms as a “nautical crossover”. It’s part cabin cruiser and fishing cruiser. You can comfortably party or go for the inshore trophies.

Sure a little more seaworthy, or a little faster, or a little larger, or present day amenities would be nice to have, but I don’t think such exists – or if it does, what the heck would that cost us?
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The F32 was the best selling 32' boat in the world.. period. More of them were made than any other 32 footer. Also for Trojan to make and sell the same design for about 20 years there was just something about the model that really worked (and still works) for people. A true 'classic' if there ever was one. Compare that to some of today's manufacturers who put gobs of money into R&D to release a new model and then discontinue it within 5 years.

For years Silverton made a 34 that was similar to the F32. Unlike the F32 (for which design and interior layout never really changed over all the years it was made), the Silverton went through several iterations of design / style (I think 3 or 4) but was always named their 34C or 34 Convertible. The designs never really changed that much, just got updated a bit.

Silverton stopped production of the model I think in the late 90's, but in about 2005 or so they reintroduced a new 34C (and they have a few more sizes in the line that are similar - I want the 50C with the 6' headroom between the engines!!). That's the closest I see these days to the F32.

There is another maker - Riviera Yachts from Australia - who make a line of convertibles that are F32/F36/F44ish in look. Surprisingly inexpensive too based on pricing I saw at a boat show a couple of years back.
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I always "compared" the Silverton 34 and the F32, as well as the Silverton 37 and the F36. What does stand out is this, prior to 1980 (possibly 1979) the Silverton 34 was quite a different boat than the newer models. More of a sedan forward style with a different layout. From 1980 through the later 80s it stayed similar and then in the late 80s/early 90s it turned into a more "sporty" style. The F32 shared the same looks from the early 70s through the later 80s, if I'm correct. Although I put the boats into the same category, the F32 simply had a style that didn't need changing. Put a 1975 F32 next to a 1975 Silverton, and it's night and day.

If I could only find someone with an F32 looking to downsize to an express cruiser. :D
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what i get a huge laugh out of is these f32's on the market for 60 to $100,000! yeah, they are Trojans but, i would be hard pressed to toss down $100 grand on a 30+ year old boat who's company no longer exists or even $60 grand for that matter. especially when there is diesel tiara's on the market for $40 to $50 grand. yeah these tiara's are older but still not as old as some of the f32's I've seen for sale for $60,000.
regardless of who makes them they are all money pits, some just more then others. if i had to trade my Trojan for any other boat in the same class I'd go either luhrs or viking. both companies are still in business and they both make a quality boat.
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You would down grad to a Luhrs or up grade to a Viking ?
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My slip neighbor is selling his 32 Luhrs for 10k. 318s sound Great. Needs some remodeling though.
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definate upgrade to a viking. the 74 EB haunts my dreams at night! :D
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chauzer wrote:definate upgrade to a viking. the 74 EB haunts my dreams at night! :D
http://www.nauticexpo.com/prod/viking/s ... html#video

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chauzer wrote:definate upgrade to a viking. the 74 EB haunts my dreams at night! :D
phil has been eyeing a mid 80's viking 44 double cabin. i love the design, and if i were not so totally enthralled with the tri cabin, this could have been 'the next one'. a captain i fly with out of dc lives on one with his wife at annapolis yacht club from april to december, then he transfers to charlotte and brings the boat to charlston and commutes out of there for the winter.
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aaronbocknek wrote:phil has been eyeing a mid 80's viking 44 double cabin. i love the design, and if i were not so totally enthralled with the tri cabin, this could have been 'the next one'. a captain i fly with out of dc lives on one with his wife at annapolis yacht club from april to december, then he transfers to charlotte and brings the boat to charlston and commutes out of there for the winter.
Two of those Vikings at my marina. One is owned by a couple who previously had an F25, then sold the boat and their house and bought the Viking DCMY and now live aboard (year round - in Lake Ontario - including winter!). The other one was bought by a couple after they got a tour of the first one - they basically went to the local broker and said 'go get us one too'. The second couple lives aboard for the summer months.

The Vikings are nice - and h e a v y .... I forget if it is 30,000+ or 40,000+ pounds.
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captainmaniac wrote:Two of those Vikings at my marina. One is owned by a couple who previously had an F25, then sold the boat and their house and bought the Viking DCMY and now live aboard (year round - in Lake Ontario - including winter!).
Do they stay at your marina with bubblers?
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captainmaniac wrote:
aaronbocknek wrote:phil has been eyeing a mid 80's viking 44 double cabin. i love the design, and if i were not so totally enthralled with the tri cabin, this could have been 'the next one'. a captain i fly with out of dc lives on one with his wife at annapolis yacht club from april to december, then he transfers to charlotte and brings the boat to charlston and commutes out of there for the winter.
Two of those Vikings at my marina. One is owned by a couple who previously had an F25, then sold the boat and their house and bought the Viking DCMY and now live aboard (year round - in Lake Ontario - including winter!). The other one was bought by a couple after they got a tour of the first one - they basically went to the local broker and said 'go get us one too'. The second couple lives aboard for the summer months.

The Vikings are nice - and h e a v y .... I forget if it is 30,000+ or 40,000+ pounds.
40,000 lbs... this is the one phil keeps looking at. she is beautiful though. and not too far from where we are.

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Very nice Aaron.. A few years maybe ???
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rbcool wrote:Very nice Aaron.. A few years maybe ???
nahh, i think i've found my forever boat. i'm totally hooked on the tri cabin. i've waited my whole life to own one,and now that i have one, i'm happier than a 'kosher pig' in mud. i think if i ever did move away from the tri cabin, i'd either go with a nordic tug 39 or if i came into a ton of money, a grand banks 41EU. phil likes the GB, but he thinks it's too 'formal' for us. i've created a monster i think. two years ago he knew nothing about boats, now look at him. for now though, i will stick with the tri.
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