Clean F 32

Lawman · Post by **Lawman** » Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:37 am

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1977/Tr ... ted-States

jddens · Post by **jddens** » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:49 pm

Seems like a good price, if it was close I'd be interested...............John

jimbo36 · Post by **jimbo36** » Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:55 pm

At the risk of sounding too negative, as soon as I see a window air conditioner, I'm out. Speaks volumes for the rest of the boat. IMHO

captainmaniac · Post by **captainmaniac** » Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:38 pm

I am also not seeing any hoses from the vents down into the bilge at the transom, and the trim pump / reservoir has been painted over(?). Ad also says 360 gallons of fuel... if the number is real, not a factory setup.

Commissionpoint · Post by **Commissionpoint** » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:49 pm

jimbo36 wrote:At the risk of sounding too negative, as soon as I see a window air conditioner, I'm out. Speaks volumes for the rest of the boat. IMHO

+1

Aside from that an F-32 will never be a 'condo on the water'. Using it as such usually means look extra hard for the 'issues' Jimbo36 was hinting at.

aaronbocknek · Post by **aaronbocknek** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 6:56 am

ewwwww....
1. window a/c
2. oil build up on and around aft bilge pump, and rust in aft bilge (pic #6)
3. love the 'row of fire extinguishers' in the teak holder!

4. wires everywhere in the fwd stateroom...

5. my biggest pet peeves when viewing boats for sale----- knick-knacks everywhere. i mean really. is there any need for this crap to be cluttering up a boat? this just really uncorks my bottle!!

i wonder how many times she actually left the dock.

i still cannot get over that bloody window a/c on the port side though. good grief. a portable one would be much better and would not ruin a window.

just my 5 cents
aaron

Nancy · Post by **Nancy** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 7:20 pm

+1 on everything Aaron said.

aaronbocknek · Post by **aaronbocknek** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:40 am

Nancy wrote:+1 on everything Aaron said.

lol.... i love how like minds think. over all just eeeeeewwwwww. as much as 'boat clutter' annoys me, so do mimes and clowns.

when i was looking for tri cabins, i did a preliminary look-see at a 1985 tri on kent island, md. when i went into the engine room i was stunned at the stench of old oil. not sure how to describe it, but it's got that sour petrol stench. i had a pair of gloves with me and i ran my hand on the bilge under the engine drip pan and came out with a thick coating of black goo. i looked at the broker and said, ''you mean to tell me that you are selling this boat and you had NO IDEA as to the condition of the lower bilge area?" disturbed at having been taken away from texting, he said, ''well, it is an old boat and you have to accept that, but, on a more positive note, the canvas is only two years old!!!" amazing.... i HATE stupid!!

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:05 am

That window A/C is tacky for sure but how long would it take to fix it ? 10 -15 minutes its gone ? the rest of the issues a few hours at best .

I would assume its a live aboard or just being used . ( or both ) . I would worry more about the structural and mechanical conditions then some cosmetics .

You can't judge a book by its cover and the works both ways

captainmaniac · Post by **captainmaniac** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:47 am

prowlersfish wrote:That window A/C is tacky for sure but how long would it take to fix it ? 10 -15 minutes its gone ? the rest of the issues a few hours at best . I would assume its a live aboard or just being used . ( or both ) . I would worry more about the structural and mechanical conditions then some cosmetics .

You can't judge a book by its cover and the works both ways

Yes, but at the same time, when so many obvious things (cosmetic and safety related) are clearly not properly taken care of, and the owner didn't even bother to clean up before the pics were taken, it makes you (or me anyways) wonder how many more critical things are also not the way they should be.... Go ahead and kick the tires if you want - but you better make sure you take an extra hard look at it.

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:27 pm

I look at it this , when ther spotless and just cleaned what are the hiding and they want top $$$ ++ and when there as they are it cam be a better price .

captainmaniac · Post by **captainmaniac** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:42 pm

But you can also tell the difference between one that just got cleaned up for the first time in 5 years, and one that is maintained that way. Proper maintenance and keeping it clean shows pride of ownership, and odds are better that whats under the covers is in better shape too.

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:01 pm

I do agree to a point but you pay top $$ for that , I rather pay less for somthing thats a liltle rough a round the egdes , and ready to use then fluff

, serously my boat would not show that great as it sits , but as far as being ready to go and I would put up aginst any boat.

captainmaniac · Post by **captainmaniac** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:55 pm

To each his own. I am not a huge fan of buying things that need work before I can use them.

If you are going to buy a fixer-upper, you better know what its gonna cost you to fix it up right, and you better be willing to spend that money. I have seen people buy fixer-uppers, and then decide to cheap out on repairs. OR not really understand enough about boats to know what repairs are truly necessary. Result - not seaworthy, and peoples lives are put at risk every time they leave the dock. BUT HEY - THEY SAVED A CRAPLOAD OF MONEY!!! Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Like the guy who bought a '74 (I think) F32 near me for $8K about 4 years ago. Mine and the other boat were sitting next to each other in winter storage. The sales guy sold the other boat, telling the buyer they could make it look like mine with a bit of elbow grease (and hiring him to do the work for them). They bought the boat, and paid him whatever amount to polish the hull, do new striping, and bottom paint. They got 2 seasons out of it before they decided it wasn't safe to launch anymore. Structural issues. (warning bells : previous owner was a race car guy, and said the engines put out 1000hp each, and the boat would hit 60mph)... not...

I actually refused to sell a guy a boat a few years back because I didn't trust that he was going to make it safe before trying to leave the dock with it (with his wife and 2 children under the age of 5). Cost me big time, but at least nobody died. That makes me feel good.

Bottom line : buyer beware. Know what to look for, or hire someone who knows what to look for. Price, Value, and Cost are three different things. Make any decisions with as much accurate information as you can possibly get your hands on. Then hope like heck that you are not wrong! And don't put anyone's life at risk.

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:17 pm

captainmaniac I do agree with what your saying , The key is knowing if a boat is just a little rough on the edges or needs a little TLC or is a total POS . don't assume because its shinny its good to go , or if its not so pretty its a junker .

Of course thats why we say Survey survey survey.

And don't forget " it just needs a little TLC " Is normally a lie